Broken promises (or Liar, liar)

February 10, 2009

Do any of you remember this shit?

It didn’t take long to break that promise. The SCHIP program is “paid for” with an increase in federal excise taxes on cigarettes.

From the Tax Foundation:

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 95.8% of tobacco expenditures are made by consumer units (people spending together) who earn under $150,000 a year. Essentially all of this tax increase will be paid by families earning less than $250,000, and probably those earning substantially less than that.

Great start BO.


9 Responses to “Broken promises (or Liar, liar)”

  1. superdave524 Says:

    Politicians.. What are ya gonna do?

  2. John in IL Says:

    Funny you bring up the GHWB tax increase. George Bush’s initial plan was to increase excise taxes on gasoline. That idea went down in flames because Democrats at the time thought that excise taxes fell too heavily on the poor.

    It also took GHWB two years to raise taxes compared to BO’s two weeks.

  3. kate Says:

    There is always something to complain about. Republicans had a fit in the 1930s when FDR went about fixing the Great Depression.

    I cannot wait for the working people to get to work and our economy to make its way back and then in 2010 vote some more pissers out of office – the ones who are working against us right now.

    Can. Not. Wait.

  4. John in IL Says:

    I’ll take that as a “no comment” on taxing the poor to fund a middle class entitlement.

    As for FDR “fixing” the Great Depression, I suggest you look at unemployment rates during his New Deal. He didn’t fix much.

  5. superdave524 Says:

    I view “sin” taxes as fees, pretty much. I know you love your ciggies, but tobacco costs society mucho dinero in increased health care costs and lost productivity. Don’t get me wrong: people should be able to smoke (include pot in there, if you’d like), but the societal costs ought to be passed along to smokers (even if they’re poor).

  6. John in IL Says:

    I view “sin” taxes as fees

    You can view it any way you like but that doesn’t make an excise tax a “fee”.

    tobacco costs society mucho dinero

    Absolutely false. Smokers (and fat people) end up saving the government money by not living as long as non-smokers (see here and here).

    despite the portrayal of smokers as individuals who are imposing tremendous costs on the rest of society, there is actually very little evidence to suggest that this is the case. Rather, the bulk of the public finance literature points in the opposite direction.

    Not only do smokers bear the individual health costs of tobacco use, but they also bear the burden of current federal and state government fiscal regimes that transfer tens of billions of dollars from smokers to nonsmokers.

    So you are advocating that a largely poor minority, with no political power, be targeted for a tax to fund a middle class health entitlement

  7. superdave524 Says:

    True, to a degree, but ciggies are a choice; food is not.

  8. John in IL Says:

    What does that have to do with promoting fair and sound tax policies? According to this, the government needs 22 million people to start smoking in order to fund SCHIP through 2017. Does that sound like good tax policy to you Dave?

  9. John in IL Says:

    and to what degree is it not true?

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